In Reply to: "So one word of sarcasm renders my argument specious, eh?" No. posted by clarkjohnsen on June 13, 2005 at 08:57:57:
First things first:I'm sorry that I am mistaken in writing you had used the "FDR '41 naval orders" argument to justify President Bush's policies re: Iraq in "Outiside." I had seen that argument before, and when you brought it up, well, I thought you had written some of the original
"Outside" posts on the subject. I was wrong. Yes, I should have checked first.
Now, with the housecleaning out of the way, let's take a look at the rest of this:
All I asked originally was what prompted YOUR sarcastic post:
"Quel horreur! In fact it took Germany another three months to match our declaration of war. Those poor innocent people!"
Yeah, no sarcasm there, eh, clark? Then when you write: "Many historians now believe Japan was suckered into doing Pearl Harbor. Germany followed their partner, as was to be expected," you think I am mistaken in my characterization? If the Japanese are suckered into doing something, don't you think they are suckers? If Germany is just following their partner, as was to be expected, didn't being just a good partner place them in a terrible situation? Please tell me what other characterization should follow from what you wrote.
I disagreed with you, but then you decide that "Oh! How dare you use one sarcastic word to me who write entire posts dripping in sarcasm! Your argument is therefore nullified!" Hey, originally, I was just asking a question. While I may have been a little surprised by your post, I wasn't indignant. I was just curious. But when you write these things to explain your sarcastic comments, I just wonder if you actually believe what you wrote. You say you don't. Or, to be more accurate, you say you don't think the Japanese were suckers and the Germans were just being good partners. So I guess now, since you say that characterization doesn't follow from what you wrote, I should ask, do you personally believe the Japanese were suckered into "doing" (what a verb clark!) Pearl Harbor and the Germans were just following their partner?
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Follow Ups
- Re: I'm surprised you now say "No." - Gee LP 18:45:29 06/13/05 (2)
- "Clark, next time you want to lick Nazi boots and kiss Japanese ass, go right ahead." See what I mean? - clarkjohnsen 10:52:47 06/14/05 (1)
- Re: Yes, the end today. - Gee LP 14:49:25 06/14/05 (0)